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Rowan Rallies-Protests ([personal profile] ralliesprotests) wrote2010-07-11 07:41 am
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Good afternoon, you've reached Rowan Lewis at Gay Agenda dot Com.
Unfortunately it's no longer the 90s, so feel free to leave a message after the beep but I ain't gonna check it.
Text me like a normal person.
BEEP.
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[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-07 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[Talk about mood whiplash. Maybe not for the first time in his life, but for the first time in a good long while, there is jut Too Much - too many emotions, too much whiplash, too many reactions, too many questions and different expectations going on at once for him to think on his feet.

Or react in a coherent way at all, too busy with trying to figure out how Rowan suddenly got from judging him to being this excited.]


Of course I can. [He just sounds... lost, and confused.]
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[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-07 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, permanently. [With very few exceptions, all of which are supernatural afflictions, he can alter anything permanently. So he's perfectly confident in this claim.

He's - still not sure what to think of all of this. And he needs that clear before they continue this conversation.]


I'm not in the mood for helping you out like that if you're judging my choices, though.
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cw: dysphoria cont.

[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-07 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
[He doesn't fully relax, not yet. Because-]

I went back on it. [His shrug is dismissive, brushing off an attack before it can even get started by devaluing his own experience.] On living as a woman. I thought it would fix... things, but it didn't. And frankly, living as a guy makes a lot of things easier. [It's workable, anyway. Because he has to make it work. Because the other option didn't feel less wrong. Being a beautiful man, knowing he can keep working on himself, it's okay.]

Brian understood. That's the friend who taught me. He did something similar when he got the option. Not with physical sex, but- Going back on a change.

[It's not very coherent, he realises, and tries to sum up what he's trying to say as:] I've had people not react well to having gone back on living as a woman before. So- He shakes his head. For all his faults, he is fairly self aware.] So when you reacted negatively, that's what I heard. [But that's not what you meant, is it? hangs in the air, unspoken.]
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cw: dysphoria cont.

[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-07 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[He looks at Rowan in surprise at that. That's... really not an answer that he expected. Up until now, Brian had been the closest to his own experience - but now there's someone who did almost the same thing, albeit at a much younger age, and then...

didn't go all the way back. He tucks the thought away for later, to turn it over and over again in the early hours of the morning, probably.]


...thank you. [And, for probably the first time, Rowan will see Jackie actually, genuinely smile - it's softer, quieter, than his usual smiles, grins and smirks, and also brief and fleeting, but it's there, and stick around for a few seconds before his expression turns serious, somewhat akin to the expression that he started the conversation with.] I'm sorry that I picked my words badly, too. [He doesn't know how, exactly, but he obviously did, or Rowan wouldn't have reacted the way they did.]

...That out of the way, though, yes. I can alter bodies permanently. In big and in small ways. [And he's slipping back into his usual self, grinning and indicating himself.] Do you really think an artwork like this is just born that way?
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[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-07 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[He follows Rowan back to the sofa and sits down at the other end of it.] I was pretty plain and boring, originally. [Never ugly, just... not much to look at. And also just, well, much more obviously male.

At the actual question, though - he scratches his neck, thinking. How to put this in a way that is consistent with the truth while omitting some important base facts...]
You need a base condition that is easy enough to acquire in my home world, if you know the right people, but I doubt you could acquire it here. [True - siring or ghouling are pretty out, by what he's been told, and he's not interested in either anyway.] Once you have that base condition, it's just a lot of studying to get the magical ability, and well. You have to be good at craft and art, as well.

Think about it like this - the magical ability allows me to treat human skin, flesh and bone and everything else like clay. But to actually shape clay into something beautiful, it takes artistic skill. [To use an example that Rowan knows:] Anyone can throw colour at another person. But you've seen how realistically I can paint scales - I could also give a person actual, real scales with this magical ability. But they'd only look good for the same reason that my painted scales look good.

[And yes, he's very proud of how well he can use the Discipline to create really, really good looking products.]
Edited 2020-09-07 20:43 (UTC)
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cw: discussion of creepy vampire fleshcraft used for gender affirmation surgery

[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-08 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
It takes a while. [As always, there's ways to do it much faster, but if he takes special care to get it as right as possible - and he will - it just takes time.]

It might be painful for you - strange, at the very least -, and it will exhaust me.

I might have to try a couple of times to really get it right, because while I've done it on myself more than once and all the research needed is already done, I'm not sure how well all of that translates to you. And we're working at a very high level here - anyone can move flesh and muscle. Getting nerve endings right is an art form - not in an elitist way, what I mean is that there's no scientific right answer to what is the best, it needs to be done and then you know, you take a step back and see if it works. Like moulding a bell.

And being done the first time and things not being quite right yet is ...stressful. But you probably know that better than me. [Because, he's back to thinking, Rowan does understand. Their experience isn't quite the same, but similar enough.

Time, physical toll, emotional toll. Is there another catch?]
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cw: discussion of creepy vampire fleshcraft used for gender affirmation surgery

[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-08 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
Quite frankly, the easiest for me would be to construct a fully functioning, standard set of parts - anything that my hands can reach, and that will be more as I go than what they could reach now. [He could add a grin here, but it would be misplaced and he stays serious.]

So if you want to, I could probably make your vagina a bit deeper, but I'd stop there.

[He keeps himself from commenting further, following up with the "other parts" comment, which he isn't sure if it means that Rowan doesn't WANT that or that they don't want to reach for the stars. He cannot give Rowan fertility (not anywhere, but particularly not here), or even just the necessary parts, not with the skill and knowledge he has now, and even if he could it would be a gruelling, potentially lethal process if he fucks up. Point being: He won't even mention it. No matter if Rowan would want it or not, it would just hurt them.]

Remove the scars, if you want. [And he does betray here that he looked very closely the other day, but he'll just have to hope that that won't set them back a step.] Move some nerve bundles, if you're interested - I couldn't quite get a read on what their exact distribution is, yesterday. As I said, nerves are an art form, but I'm pretty good at it.

If you just want more stretch and the ability to get wet, I can stick to that, too, though.
Edited 2020-09-08 07:53 (UTC)
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cw: discussion of creepy vampire fleshcraft used for gender affirmation surgery

[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-08 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yes.

[That one, he can answer without any hesitation and honestly, it's simple enough to talk about. There's no hurt in it. If anything, it feels good.]

More than once, though I only kept it for a prolonged amount of time the once, after I'd finally figured out how to get it just right.

Two times in this place, there and back, so I know that it works here, too. [Once right after arriving, in a frantic quest to see if it did work. And a second time because he needed it for a sexual encounter. Which had been... not bad? He still can't quite make heads nor tails of if it had been better than the alternative, but it was good to have tried.]
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cw: discussion of creepy vampire fleshcraft used for gender affirmation surgery

[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-08 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
Not really, no. [Not without telling them things about themselves that they don't want to tell.]

And I wonder about that, too.

[It's a question he has asked himself, more than once. They cut down his strength and speed by half and took everything else but the bare necessities completely away. Why does he still have the entirety of Vicissitude?

But, he thinks, he's found the answer. Or at least an answer that would make sense. It's not a nice one, it's a very vulnerable one, but with the conversation they've just had he feels like Rowan is perhaps the one person that he can explain his idea to, that he wants to show that particular vulnerability to.]


I've thought about it a lot. And I think... [he'll use the fact that Rowan understands so much to skirt around having to explain some of this, keeping it short and to the point and vague where it being explicit would hurt.] Imagine if you had this ability, and then, living in a completely male body, had it taken from you.

I don't know how functional I would have been, how fun I would have been to watch.

And they want their entertainment functional and fun.
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[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-08 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
There's nothing else really that I'm in a hurry to get.

[He's got one other thing lined up that he wants to ask for, which he cannot tell Rowan about, and that's... pretty much it. Yes, eventually he hopes to gain all his Disciplines back, but he's been doing just fine without them.

Might want to get more knowledge of Obtenebration than he has, eventually, because he's sure that there will be people here who will appreciate shadow tentacles... But that's a by the by, and maybe one day thing.]


How about you just earmark the thought, and if I need your help with something in the future, you owe me one? [Having someone indebted to you is always useful, after all.]
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[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-08 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't be so sure about that. [He tilts his head and waves a hand, ushering the words about the better half of the deal off.] After all I'm getting someone out of it who understands and accepts when I say that I don't want to receive anything physical in return.

Not everyone does.
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[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-13 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure there is. [He would genuinely be surprised if there isn't. A list... huh. Not a bad idea. He's curious what Rowan will come up with.

Back to the last point, though-]
But also. Seriously. Think about it. There's no hurry. As long as I'm here, my offer stands.
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[personal profile] talkative 2020-09-16 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
[He simply nods at that; there isn't really anything to add.

And with that, he stands.]
I'll hear from you when you got the list, then?

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